MSNBC host Symone Sanders-Townsend suggested she had a bad experience working for her former boss, Vice President Kamala Harris.
Sanders-Townsend, who served as Harris’ chief spokesperson and senior adviser before joining MSNBC in 2022, appeared with fellow Biden administration veteran turned MSNBC host Jen Psaki to discuss the attacks on the presumptive new Democratic nominee and how she is handling them.
“The thing about being the first is that because you're the first, whether it's the first woman, the first person of color, etcetera, people sometimes don't know how to treat you. They don't know how to process it,” Sanders-Townsend began Thursday. “And so they resort, unfortunately, to racist and sexist tropes and memes and stereotypes.”
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The liberal MSNBC host then went on to talk about her own personal experience working with Harris.
“It was a new thing for me to work for her, because I'd never worked for a high-profile woman before. I'd only worked for men,” Sanders-Townsend told Psaki.
She continued: “There was one day at work where I thought, 'Ma'am, you might be the last woman I ever work for because we have to deal with so much here.'”
“There's a story there,” Psaki said with a smile.
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“But she was always aware of the criticism that she was getting, right?” Sanders-Townsend said. “When she was working there, we didn't hide it from her, but that didn't deter her. But I think it was something that any candidate, any person in power, needs to be aware of.
“Because when you're not in the loop, the last thing you want is your candidate, your manager, the vice president of the United States of America to be there and someone to say something and say, 'Well, what's that all about?' 'Well, ma'am, we discussed that this morning at 10 a.m.,'” she added.
“Yes,” Psaki nodded. “I mean it's important that they're aware, which is very interesting. It's about how they react to it.”
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During her time as vice president, Harris has faced multiple rounds of staff exoduses from her office, fueling criticism over a high turnover rate within her orbit.
Harris quickly became the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee after President Biden announced his withdrawal from the 2024 race.