We talk to Bloofy and Pouchy, stars of 'Inside Out 2'


Achieving the biggest opening of the year so far with a monumental domestic gross of $154.2 million, Pixar's “Inside Out 2” has been a much-needed financial triumph for the lauded animation studio. But even after such good fortune, Pixar couldn't have anticipated the wave of laughter that swept through screenings packed with the introduction of two new 2D characters.

Meet Bloofy and Pouchy.

The hand-drawn cartoons are the stars of “Bloofy's House,” the fictional preschool program hidden inside the mind of Riley, the sequel's now-teenage hero, whose head is the setting for much of the film. Bloofy and Pouchy reside in a vault of secrets: Riley still appreciates these characters from his youth, but doesn't admit it.

Voiced by comedian Ron Funches, the happy-go-lucky Bloofy is a buck-toothed magenta dog with a surprisingly wry demeanor, while Pouchy (played by “Saturday Night Live's” James Austin Johnson) is his witty, sensible zippered fanny pack. for a muzzle that loads dynamite cartridges, among other useful items.

A toy duck? Scotch tape? Pouchy contains multitudes in “Inside Out 2.”

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“It took some explaining,” Johnson recalls over Zoom of how the Pixar team approached him about interpreting the expressive waist accessory. “They said: 'He is a character who has all the tools he can use to solve the problem.' I was like, 'I'm Dora's backpack.' I understand.'”

Funches, 41, who filmed his role in February, says he joined solely to get involved with Pixar. Upon seeing an image of the character he would play, he knew that her sensibilities and his humor were aligned. “With Bloofy, you could see right away that he had the wide eyes and the sweet appearance of him,” Funches says.

The actor speaks to me on video from a room in his Los Angeles home that houses several arcade machines.

“I live like a kid who can now afford the things he wants,” Funches says, both about his own game collection (which includes Pac-Man) and Riley's relationship with Bloofy as he grows up. “We do ourselves no favors when we rush into adulthood and walk away from those things that bring us so much joy. It’s okay to like those things for longer than other people say you should.”

Inspired by fourth-wall-breaking early childhood development shows like “Blue's Clues” and “Dora the Explorer,” Bloofy and Pouchy were born in a brainstorming session led by director Kelsey Mann.

Sketches of a purple talking dog.

Bloofy concept art by Ralph Eggleston.

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“Normally at Pixar we iterate a lot, but I'll be honest, Bloofy came with his fanny pack and just stayed,” says Meg LeFauve, one of the screenwriters and an Oscar nominee for the first screenplay of “Inside Out.”

Mann always knew that Bloofy and Pouchy would be made in 2D to better evoke the animated shows they referenced. The director himself was Bloofy's temporary voice for most of the production.

“The look and feel of those shows is very simple, so little kids can connect easily,” says Rob Thompson, the film's lead “drawing artist” in charge of making the expressions more graphic by implementing a rendered aesthetic. by hand.

“I might say, 'Dora has a lot fewer lines. Can we cut some of these lines on Bloofy's shoes or the hat?'” she recalls. “We negotiated and found what was important just to narrow it down to as few lines as possible to match the style of those programs.” To integrate 2D characters into Pixar's 3D world, the artists created a digital flat card within the 3D environment on which they projected the drawings that bring Bloofy and Pouchy to life. Thompson also relied on the lighting department to use shadows to make the combination of techniques look perfect.

Knowing that Pouchy would be a traditionally animated character excited Johnson, who has more than a casual interest in animation. “I did animation post-production in college and interned for a 'Beavis and Butthead' reboot at Mike Judge's company,” the comedian says.

Sketches of a talking yellow bag.

Pouchy concept art by Keiko Murayama.

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Pouchy's voice came together quickly, Johnson recalls. Knowing that Riley saw “Bloofy's House” when he was very young, he decided to try out a “clown” voice.

“I have a 2-year-old son and I was trying different things with him at bath time to see what he responded to,” Johnson says. “The voice we have for Pouchy is the one the director responded to the most. Once you start laughing, you just chase him as far as he goes.”

The process was very different from the one Johnson used for his bizarre impersonation of Donald Trump, for which he is best known.

“The Donald Trump character that I play took years to develop,” he says. “When you make an impression, it's not just about finding a vocal tone or the sound of the voice. It's about finding the mindset and the joke you're telling, the story you're telling about the character.”

Johnson was careful not to let his opinion of Trump seep into Pouchy, a character who has “useful contributions to make” and who “is there to serve,” even if it's mostly with explosives.

Says LeFauve, praising SNL's breakout star: “It sounds easy to just put on a funny voice, but it actually takes some real acting skills to stay in character, keep it grounded and still be silly and have fun.” , optimism and all those layers that the voice actor had to put on.”

What surprised Johnson most is that most of the people who came up to congratulate him didn't recognize his voice at first. “As an actor I want people to know it was me, but maybe I'm too good at my job as a cartoon voice actor,” he half-jokes.

Bloofy's limited screen time seems to be having a lasting impact because it appeals to both younger audiences and older moviegoers: it's both heartwarming and a little subversive.

“Bloofy isn't just a happy one-note guy,” LeFauve says. “He's super smart and very direct, but he still does it with a smile in that sing-song voice.” Is “Bloofy's House” what Riley was still watching when she was 11 when we meet her in the first movie? The writer believes so, and he also believes that a certain imaginary friend would not have liked it.

“I bet Bing Bong was a little jealous of Bloofy,” LeFauve speculates.

To develop his vocal performance, Funches thought about similar characters like Barney the Purple Dinosaur or YouTube sensation Ms. Rachel. (His own 2-year-old son is a fan of the latter.) Their defining quality, he thinks, is that they don't talk down to children. It's an idea that led him to enunciate clearly, making each word “very moving and more sing-song,” he says.

Funches says that his portrayal of Bloofy was sometimes supported by his own theory that the character had lost his mind in the vault. He enjoys the mature nature of some of Bloofy's comments, including his mention of a “quid pro quo” to help him escape.

“He was a strange dog from Chicago,” Funches says. “We kept mentioning that he was from the Midwest and he was like, 'Oh! Hello! Good to see you!'”

The fact that he has been able to establish a career in voice acting over the past decade is validation for Funches, who grew up on Chicago's South Side, where he was bullied for his high-pitched voice. He now works with School on Wheels, a program for at-risk children, encouraging them to embrace the oddities that can set them apart.

“My ex came up and said he watched it with his son and that all the kids in the theater responded to Bloofy when Bloofy talked to them,” Funches says. “When you are at the stand you don't know how things are going to go and when you see that your work makes people happy, it is something immeasurable for me.”

Given such an overwhelmingly positive reaction to the film, and to his character in particular, Funches hopes there is a future for Bloofy and Pouchy beyond “Inside Out 2.”

“Why can't Bloofy be a real show?” Funches asks sincerely. “We can have a fun show for kids that also has some sharp humor. We have Disney+ right there. Put it there!

If a show like that existed, maybe we'd also know what else Pouchy is hiding besides dynamite. Johnson thinks that's what Trump would want to know.

“I thought it was a marvelous movie,” he says, doing the voice of the former president. “We haven't seen it. We don't see it. But he is a excellent movie.”

He's on a roll and we won't stop him. “We are investigating Pouchy very carefully because he is someone who is hiding many things within himself, and he doesn't want anyone to know what it is. “We've been asking a lot if we can put our hand inside Pouchy and everyone at Disney said we can't do it, so we're not doing it.”

Meanwhile, the public has already cast its cinematic vote. If Disney is listening, we'll see more of Bloofy and Pouchy.

“Is there anything funnier than when the other emotions look at Bloofy and he talks to his own shadow on the wall?” LeFauve asks. Viewers would surely like to know.

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